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Trichotillomania
2/20/2009 2:11:11 PM
Trichotillomania can lead to baldness and obviously can cause great pain and suffering in its victims. So how in the world can this weird disorder be caused by brain chemistry? We can’t say for sure but you must realize that the brain controls every aspect of your behavior and therefore anything you can imagine could indeed be a symptom if the brain becomes affected by a chemical imbalance.
 
It appears this particular condition has a genetic link and medication treatment can be effective, in particular those meds that act on the neurotransmitter Serotonin. See the ‘Advice from Dr D’ under ‘Chemical Imbalance’ for a story from a victim of this disorder.
 
I’ve treated several patients with this rare disorder and my drug of choice for the condition is Luvox. This med also works for social anxiety disorder (anxiety in social settings) as well as OCD. There are also some therapies that appear to work but my choice is to use the meds first because they work more quickly to stop the trauma and pain.
 
Once those symptoms are under control then therapy can be used to gain understanding and refocus the behavior. I’ve had good success with just the med and like some other conditions in psychiatry, patient preference will play a huge role when making the decison on how to treat. Some folks don’t have time for therapy while others just don’t want to take a pill.
 
Obviously I'm a huge advocate of medication for treating psych problems and many times it's mandatory. But in cases where psychotherapy is effective as well, I'll let the patient make the call.
 
 
Picture of  Trichotillomania.........Obviously extremely painfull!!
 
 
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34 Comments
2/20/2009 7:21:36 PM
I have a bipolar patient that could not tolerate Luvox even with a mood stablizer and we tried Geodon. Now, for the first time in 10+ years , by her admission, she is not pulling her hair out and it is growing back. She is excited- NO more Hats or WIGS!!!!!
2/20/2009 10:20:09 PM
So SHNP do you feel it was the stabilization of the Bipolar Disorder that did the trick? I've never used Geodon for Trichotillomania AND I've never had a Bipolar patient with that concurrent diagnosis. Tell me more please??
2/22/2009 7:57:07 AM
When the patient came to me she had been treated for bipolar disorder- mixed, for years by another provider. She was on Depakote ER and stated that she had done really good for years but had started college and was experiencing extreme anxiety and had had several manic episodes in the months leading up to our visit. She also commented that she was very ADD again, and could not concentrate anymore. She had gained weight and was very concerned about that as well. I thought maybe due to concerns about the Depokote causing the weight gain that maybe she was not taking it, so I ordered levels and ran a couple of other labs- TSH-all checked out. We decided to go up on the Depakote and she did okay for a while. No more manic episodes and the mood swings were stable. She came back with complaints of ADD, and social anxieties about speaking in public setting (required by degree plan). We added Luvox CR but she could not tolerate it. Her anxiety was worse. I questioned her about other meds or OTC meds-?? Diet pills? Caffeine?? After stopping the Luvox CR, she did not return to baseline. So we decided to wean Depakote ER and try Geodon. She called within 2 weeks she said she felt like a new person and she was not pulling out her hair anymore?!! What?! She had never told me this or admitted to any OCD- tendancies or behaviors. In retrospect, she was always wearing workout clothes with a cap when she came to see me. She stated that she had never told anyone before, and had extensions put in to hide the spots if she had a social function. She told me she was too embarrassed to tell anyone. Her hair is growing back, and her mood has been stable for months now. She states she has never felt better.
nic
2/22/2009 2:57:03 PM
I wonder if it's therapeutic for these people to perhaps, pluck other's eyebrows? I bet they'd be really good at it.

I know I'd pay good money to someone that's been pulling hair for 10 years.!
2/22/2009 3:04:21 PM
Why would anyone want to remove their own hair? I'm having a hard enough time throwing Rogaine on my scalp everyday just to keep the hair I have! One time, I had this ladyfriend who was constantly looking in the mirror, plucking her chin with tweezers. She would even stop in a parking lot if there was "good light", and start hacking away with the spare tweezers she kept in her car!
2/22/2009 4:09:12 PM
Very interesting SHNP. I think that many folks think of this as a nervous habit and not a true psychiatric condition. I'll have to keep the Geodon in mind going forward.

As for you Patrick, that is not Trichotillomania! By the way, you are a regular poster here and always have an interesting story about your many girlfriends. Just curious, how many do you have?
2/22/2009 9:41:46 PM
My daughter has a kid in her class that has this. Her mother was telling me about it one time, and how the little kid eats her hair and then throws up sorta like fur balls....all I kept thinking was, if she were my mom, I would pull my hair out too. This lady was seriously a nervous wreck, and completly nuts! I am serious!
So, my question to you Dr. D is this,, can someone drive you so crazy and make you so nervous that you are constantly a nervous wreck to where you develope this disorder?
I know I cant even pluck my eyebrows!
2/23/2009 5:49:52 PM
I did not really answer your question before about why the drug might have worked. I looked into the incidence of trichotillomania and found that only about 3-5% of the population experience this compulsion. Fox news aired a story on 11-07-08 on the phenomenon. The lead researcher for Duke university stated that the compulsion is an impulse control disorder. She also stated there is research to support that it may be a genetic mutation on the gene that is responsible for Tourette's. ( Is a tic really involuntary or could it be an impossible impulse control problem?) The opinion is that not only genetics but environment plays a role in actually developing the disorder. So if all the above stated is true? then wouldn't mood stabilization stop the behavior if it is truly an impulse control problem- it helps with bipolar impulse control? We also see a genetic link with bipolar disorder. What's your thoughts?
2/24/2009 6:49:54 AM
Well, Dr. D, I never have more than one lady-friend at a time. That would just be wrong... well, not for me, but for the ladies. They would always be looking for the other's lost earrings, trying to figure out who was in the car last, asking if their cooking is better than the other girls. I tried that, but it makes them too nervous, and I don't like to do that to the gals.

With that being said, let me just say that I don't seem to keep em very long! But that's ok. I had an old lady for about 15 years. That's enough for me!!! I put in my time, and I don't ever think I'll get married again. But there are a couple things you need ladies for, and I always manage to find one floating around somewhere. You know, dancing, and showing up to church socials. In West Texas, let me tell you, that's all the ladies need you for too!

My ladies are always very nice (except for that one chick who would yell "go ahead, punch me in the stomach!" after a couple drinks), I just happen to notice quirks about them that seem funny to me, and lo and behold..... they seem to have a place here on your website.

Lord, I hope they never discover this site..... they could tell a story or two about me!
nic
2/24/2009 6:55:17 AM
Lisa: the thought of a kid hacking up a furball is... so disturbing on so many levels! As a mother, I don't think that I would go sharing information like that at my kid's school functions...

My mother wasn't a mess enough to make me eat my hair, but she was just wacky enough to make me develop some very poor choosing mechanisms when it came to a mate!!!!

I think I'd rather the furball.


2/24/2009 7:35:34 AM
A quick comment about the biology of Trichotillomania with reference to shnp's post. The disorder has similarities to OCD, a habit, an anxiety disorder, a mood disorder and also an impulse control disorder. My view is that it is absolutely genetic and DNA related and will end up with links to many psychiatric conditions. However, even though Geodon can be used for mood stabilization it is thought of more as an anti-psychotic. But hey, in psychiatry if it works then it works, so it's an interesting alternative.
2/24/2009 11:00:57 PM
Nick...that is funny! I did think the same thing when the kids mom was telling me. I hardly knew her. That's why I thought she could definatly drive her kid to pulling her hair out.
I think I would rather the poor choice in mates over the furballs....that's just me! I hate furballs!
2/25/2009 8:39:10 AM
OK Nic/Lisa. Enough about fur balls! However, interesting a Mom you don’t know told you that. Are you a sympathetic listener? All of my life people I just met would open up and tell me the most amazing stories. I’m sure that’s why I ended up in psychiatry. One other interesting point: Most folks love to talk about themselves…….all you have to do is ask.
2/25/2009 11:52:29 AM
I had a college room mate who had this. She pulled out her hair to the point that she had to wear thick banded headbands. I think booze and craziness of college cured her though! By senior year she had totally stopped.

Another thought on the same topic- I hack away at my cuticles with cuticle clippers to the point that they sometimes bleed (sorry for the over share!) Its a nervous habit. I rather enjoy it! Patrick, instead of chin hairs, I have a friend who once plucked most of her eyebrows off until we had an intervention which consisted of taking the tweezers hostage and replacing them with an eye brow pencil. Dr D- do all of these nit picking problems fit into the same category- whether it be hair, cuticles, etc?
2/25/2009 4:14:12 PM
Well I think I'm a sympathetic listener, but I did learn that when it comes to this lady, it's all about her!
2/26/2009 8:26:45 PM
Well Trip the eyebrows do indeed qualify. Though most cases of Trichotillomania involve the head, any body hair is fair game. As for the cuticles, besides being TMI about the bleeding that would fall into a similar category in my opinion. But if you enjoy it then I don't think you'll be stopping any time soon and we can't call it a problem. I assure you the hair pullers of the world do NOT enjoy their condition. Now as to why you enjoy it???
KT
3/2/2009 11:03:31 AM
I have a question about Trichotillomania. I don't 'pull' hair from my head, but I do rub my left eyebrow to the point where I rub the hair away. What are your thoughts?
3/2/2009 3:34:00 PM
Any body hair would qualify for the diagnosis. So now the question would be whether it bothers you or not in terms of seeking trreatment.
KT
3/3/2009 10:01:37 AM
Believe it or not, that's a complex question. The rubbing itself doesn't 'bother' me. The fact that I am not able to stop doing it bothers me. The bald spot in my eyebrow bothers me. You know, I've done this for many years, but only in the past year or so has it been something that I have to make myself stop. ?????
3/3/2009 8:29:00 PM
Well if you can make yourself stop than that's half the battle. What I suggest is some habit reprogramming where you substitute a more benign habit for the eyebrow rubbing. I've used this with patients and a favorite that I recommend is rubbing your thumb and index finger together. So every time you feel like rubbing your eyebrow substitute this. Try it, it works!
KT
3/4/2009 8:32:56 AM
I will give it a try :) Thanks for your advice!
3/4/2009 10:45:17 AM
Cool, let me know how it works out.
KT
3/5/2009 3:06:12 PM
Ok, I promise not to give a day by day, but yesterday I think I did OK with the substitution. I still rubbed my eyebrow, but a lot less than I have been. It's funny because I think if someone saw me rubbing my index finger and thumb together, I would look funny to them. Then it dawned on me, how funny do I look rubbing my eyebrow off?? Ha Ha Ha!
3/5/2009 3:32:47 PM
A day-by-day is cool KT. You can always rub the two fingers under the table or where others can't see you doing it. Yes, definitely better than rubbing your eyebrow off!
Amy
4/22/2009 1:39:27 PM
Looking for a provider in the Charlotte, NC area who is familiar with treating trichotillomania.
4/22/2009 2:56:51 PM
Hi Amy,

Any psychiatrist should be competent to treat this condition. I would call them first to make sure they have experience with this. Good luck!

8/17/2009 10:17:17 AM
I do have this desease. it took me watching obsessed on tv to realize how bad it is. I WANT HELP PLEASE
8/18/2009 6:57:28 AM
Hi Leasha,

Start with an eval by a psychiatrist. This is a treatable condition.

3/26/2010 10:59:58 PM
Dr D, thank you so much for the thumb and forefinger suggestion. I have been rubbing my eyebrow for several years now and I am trying to quit! This just may work. Thank you!
DDA
3/30/2010 12:40:05 AM
Nice to hear that Anon! I'm always happy when I offer advice that works. Keep me posted.
C
7/31/2010 11:09:03 PM
Dr D, i have been pulling out my eyelashes and eyebrows for about a year now and everyday try to quit but i just keep ending up pulling them. Im in high school and i never go to any parties and barely hangout with anyone because im sooooo insecure about my eye lashes and brows. its awful! what's the best thing to do to cure this awful disease? phsychiastrist? medicine?
DDA
8/8/2010 11:09:49 PM
As I stated in my post, C, Luvox is usually my drug of choice, as the patient gets relief quicker than just therapy alone. I would also like for you to read another post on this rare disorder entitled "I'm Pulling Out All My Hair..." There is help out there for you, C. As I told Madeline, I suggest you first see a psychiatrist, who will in turn put you on the medication that will help overcome this terrible disorder. I suggest you do this as quickly as possible. Thank you for writing; even though this is a rare disorder, there seems to be quite a few people who suffer because of it.
8/9/2010 12:12:50 PM
Trichotoillomania is actually quite common, 3-5% of the population suffers with compulsicve hair pulling (across the lifespan)., that's actually quite common when compared to bipolar disorder (2.6%), Generalized Anxiety Disorders (3.1%), OCD (1%). (ref: http://nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/the-numbers-count-mental-disorders-in-america/index.shtml)

Actually, most psychiatrists ARE not capable of treating this disorder. The research shows that SSRIs are rarely effective. Anti-psychotics are even less effective. True treatment is going to involve a delicate cocktail of meds and behavior modification. Medications are most helpful when there are other underlying issues that can be remedied by prescription.

Please, this disorder is so misunderstood, and so shame based, it is imperative that those who are in a position to influence report information as accurately as possible!!

www.trich.org is a nonprofit organization that operates under the guidance of an esteemed Scientific Advisory Board. The information provided on trich.org is approved by the leading researchers and clinicians that work with these behaviors. Treatment guidelines, medication info, online support groups and more are all available on their website.
DDA
8/11/2010 2:25:15 PM
As I stated in my post, I have had much success treating this condition, and I like to begin with medication since a quicker relief is achieved. Then behavior modification can begin and, ultimately, non-interrupted hair growth.
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